By Oboogie
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Serious question, what crime(s) is Andrew Windsor accused of committing? My guess is that having sex with a victim of trafficking is statutory rape, but I can't find anything to confirm that. If that is the case, would it need to be proven that he knew she was trafficked?
I see lots of Americans claiming he had sex with a minor but, as I understand it, they are referring to Virginia Giuffre. The problem is it happened in London and she was 17 and therefore over the UK age of consent. This is another example of American exceptionalism - thinking US law applies to the whole world. As far as I know he has not been accused of having sex with a minor as defined by local law. Or have I missed something?
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By Abernathy
#99096
That is quite a good question . I suppose the answer is that he hasn’t actually been charged with any crimes (principally because he (was) Prince Andrew. All we really know is that he supposedly had it off with Virginia Giuffre three times, mostly in accommodation provided by the late Jeffrey Epstein and/or Ghislaine Maxwell, and that he denies “all wrongdoing”.
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By Watchman
#99103
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 12:42 pm https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... MP=bsky_gu
The former Duke of York will lose his naval title, the defence secretary has said, as King Charles looks to draw a line under the scandal over his brother’s relationship with the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Andrew Mountbatten Windsor will be stripped of his honorary rank of vice-admiral, which he was given in 2015 and has retained even after giving up other military positions in 2022, John Healey confirmed on Sunday.

Healey told the BBC One’s Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg that ministers were working with the king to remove Mountbatten Windsor’s naval honours, after the decision last week to strip him of his royal title as prince and remove him from Royal Lodge.

Healey said: “In general, the government has been guided by the decisions and judgments the king has made. In defence, it’s exactly the same.
I guess Vice Admiral would be the most appropriate rank
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By Watchman
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Abernathy wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 4:31 pm That is quite a good question . I suppose the answer is that he hasn’t actually been charged with any crimes (principally because he (was) Prince Andrew. All we really know is that he supposedly had it off with Virginia Giuffre three times, mostly in accommodation provided by the late Jeffrey Epstein and/or Ghislaine Maxwell, and that he denies “all wrongdoing”.
Because Mr Epstein and Ms Maxwell are not Bradford taxi drivers?
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By satnav
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I find it a bit nauseating that former royal correspondents like Jenni Bond are now rushing out saying what a truly awful person Andrew actually is. From what I can see Andrew has been the way he is for most of his adult life so why the the likes of Jenni Bond and others very happy to cover up for him until the Epstein story finally became public.

May be if more royal experts had called out Andrew sooner potential victims would have felt more comfortable to come forward and given evidence against him.
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By Bones McCoy
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Readers may be familiar with the irresolvable triad of God is benevolent / God is omnipotent / Evil exists.
It can also be presented as one of those 2x2 grids beloved of management consultants.

There's a remarkable similarity for two other groups with mysterious, unknowable powers.

Royalty: Are they all good / Are they all powerful / Do they tolerate the intolerable.

Royal Correspondents: Are they relevant / Do they know everything / Do they tell all.
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By Abernathy
#99370
So if King Charlie, Prince Willie, et al actually believed Mountbatten-Windsor’s repeated denials of wrongdoing, why did they remove all his titles and chuck him out of his mansion (albeit into a different mansion)?
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By Andy McDandy
#99378
You'd have thought that something along these lines would do the trick (or at least be broadly understandable).
It is to my lasting regret that I ever met, and befriended, Jeffrey Epstein. We moved in connecting social circles, and I viewed him as an entertaining socialite and host, as did many others. He introduced me to young women who I engaged in sexual relations with, believing at the time that their participation was voluntary, and all was consensual and legal. I now understand that it was not, and I can only apologise to the women involved, and do whatever I can to help them, and other survivors of sexual assault, seek justice and rebuild their lives. As a father of daughters, the idea of any young woman being forced into sexual activity against their will sickens me.
Problem is that he went on the defensive from the start, and his alibis and excuses were laughably shit. So it's too late to turn anything around. If this was an episode of Columbo, it'd be over in 10 minutes.
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