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By Tubby Isaacs
#91217
Loads in the West Midlands, for starters. I'm relatively optimistic that Labour can get a lot of anti-Farage tactical votes, but it will be a very good region for Reform.
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By The Weeping Angel
#91233
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:57 pm Outflanking Reform latest.

The Government did sound like it wasn't keen on it, but it didn't actually rule it out. Fairly standard negotiation tactics.

Edwin's probably already working on it.
By Youngian
#91243
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:22 pm I'm relatively optimistic that Labour can get a lot of anti-Farage tactical votes, but it will be a very good region for Reform.
I wonder if the 'surprise' Labour victory (media too busy creaming themselves over Farage to notice the ground game) in the Hamilton by-election was driven by people spooked a Reform MP nutter gets in like Runcorn.
I would still bet the LDs will be the main beneficiaries of the increasingly oddball FPTP arithmetic at the next GE.
We now have Corbyn and Farage supporters who don't understand why maximizing voting share won't produce a win. But are too dim to get it.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#91246
Could have got some Labour votes out on that basis, but not many Lib Dems to squeeze and you’d expect Scottish Greens to go SNP. In lots of England, there’s more for Labour to work with.

The vote shares might suggest some SNP-Reform crossover. There was certainly some Brexit-SNP crossover, but I’d be surprised if that was sustained.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#91248
A load more money for apprenticeships, which will get framed by some as "Blue Labour" or "facing up to the challenge of Reform" when it's the sort of thing that very many people have said should have happened since `Farage was in short trousers. I think it's sensible supply side stuff.

Hope it registers in Tipton and helps Antonia, but it probably won't because "Reform would have kept the factories open" or whatever. People say you can't "compete with Reform on immigration", but can you compete with them on anything?
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By Andy McDandy
#91260
Today is Windrush day, and I've just seen comments on Facebook saying that it was all a Labour plot to drive down wages and destroy the factories when we could have been building a high tech economy like Germany and Japan, and we'd all be millionaires by now and no blacks.

Racism has always been short on logic, but it is enthusiastically embracing insanity now.
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