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By kreuzberger
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Abernathy wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:31 pm ...
On Kuenssberg this morning, none other than cerebrally-challenged former Labour MP Zarah Sultana,
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The BBC don't have to bash Starmer, themselves. Proof here that they can always use sub-contractors.
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By Tubby Isaacs
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It's a bit jarring to say "return to negotiations" when these were going on when Trump attacked, but it's a standard diplomatic phrase. The EU has said the same. Doubtless Mike will give them hell too, or would that run too much against "Britain bad American colony, EU much better" narrative?
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By Malcolm Armsteen
#91296
Galsworthy is an utter cunt.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#91298
Oh look. Go and stink out the Green Party instead.

Reminder that this part of the Left think Russia's invasion of Ukraine wasn't "unprovoked". We can not support the US bombing Iran and call out this lot too.

By Oboogie
#91299
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:07 pm Encouragingly, quite a few people on Bluesky are pushing back against the idea that Starmer "endorsed" the attacks.
The USA had three possible bases to launch their B-2s from, in order of ease for the mission these were: Diego Garcia, the UK and Missouri. The first two would require permission from the UK government, the fact that the Americans used Missouri, the most logistically challenging location, is a strong indicator that Starmer said no.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#91300
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:44 pm Galsworthy is an utter cunt.
He's another Edwin. Lost it with Starmer because he won't rejoin the EU last week. So whole of politics is "friendless US poodle" narrative. Even when Starmer's spending more time than anyone with Carney, and traveling round with Macron and Merz on diplomatic missions.
By Youngian
#91305
Whether US fighter jets hit nuclear facilities or a toy factory is not of much consequence, Trump's a story teller. If he says the mission is a success, that's what his base will believe. He wouldn’t be the first POTUS indulging in this kind of performative adventurism and won't go down well with sections of his Maga isolationist base.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#91307
UK, France and Germany urge Iran 'not to take any further action that could destabilize the region'
The UK, France and Germany have released a joint statement following American strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities, saying that they call upon Iran to engage in negotiations leading to agreement that addresses all concerns associated with its nuclear program.
What does Mike Galsworthy make of this, I wonder?
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By Abernathy
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:44 pm Galsworthy is an utter cunt.
I found his contributions during the Brexit “debate” quite useful and remarkably sane. How has he progressed down the path to utter cuntitude ?
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By Malcolm Armsteen
#91315
He seems perpetually enraged that Starmer doesn't do whatever he (Gallbladder) woke up thinking that morning, immediately and in full. This means, of course, that Starmer is a weak loser.

Starmer Derangement Syndrome.
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By The Weeping Angel
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Over on Labour's Future Phil woodford thinks this shows Starmer has a man buffeted by events.
Last week at the G7, Starmer pushed de-escalation and bizarrely claimed Trump was on board, despite the US president’s contrary pronouncements and the stark warnings of other leaders such as Merz.
Now, he has nothing to say apart from effectively endorsing Washington’s demands of Tehran.
While I completely accept there are no easy options for the Labour government here in a world where we need constructive relations with the US, isn’t the overall impression of Starmer one of a man buffeted by events?
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By Abernathy
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Here’s a thing : From an Iranian point of view, wouldn’t it be quite logical to conclude that the best way to stop nuclear-armed powers like Israel and the USA from bombing the shite out of your country would be to continue to work towards acquiring nuclear weapons of your own (if that was indeed what their nuclear enrichment programme was intended to do) ? In other words, the precise opposite of what Trump’s actions were supposedly intended to put a stop to. Escalation, rather than de-escalation.
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By Samanfur
#91327
"Let the record show that when the world stood at the edge of a nuclear disaster, America stepped forward."
- Danny Danon, Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations

I'd have proofread that speech one more time if I were you, Mr. Danon.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#91328
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:59 pm Over on Labour's Future Phil woodford thinks this shows Starmer has a man buffeted by events.
Last week at the G7, Starmer pushed de-escalation and bizarrely claimed Trump was on board, despite the US president’s contrary pronouncements and the stark warnings of other leaders such as Merz.
Now, he has nothing to say apart from effectively endorsing Washington’s demands of Tehran.
While I completely accept there are no easy options for the Labour government here in a world where we need constructive relations with the US, isn’t the overall impression of Starmer one of a man buffeted by events?
Trump is a walking event. Not sure how you can't be buffeted.
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By kreuzberger
#91345
We all woke yesterday morning to Trump telling us that Fordow had been "Ob-lit-er-a-ted" by his big, muscular bombers. Today, we are told that Israel is back there again for a full-throated attack.

We witness the almost immediate unravelling of yet another lie and, regardless of the extraordinary gravity of the context, not a single eye it batted.
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By Abernathy
#91346
[Trump voice] Indeed. It was the most successful attack, probably more successful than any other attack we have seen, ever, in the history of attacks. [/Trump voice]
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By Boiler
#91348
kreuzberger wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:28 pm We all woke yesterday morning to Trump telling us that Fordow had been "Ob-lit-er-a-ted" by his big, muscular bombers.
By his Massive Ordnance Penetrators, no less.
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By kreuzberger
#91349
Abernathy wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:35 pm [Trump voice] ... [/Trump voice]
His threadbare repertoire of theatricals is as pathetic as it is transparent.

"Here's a momentous thing that I did but, shucks, I am not even breaking sweat."

[Trump voice] It's all about ME! [/Trump voice]
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By Tubby Isaacs
#91352
I managed to survive the whole of the 2016 US Presidential Campaign without seeing more than about 5 seconds of consecutive Donald Trump. I'd assumed he'd be a fairly skilled speaker until I actually saw some of him properly. It's almost like being completely shit is part of the appeal, unlike those clever smoothies who prepare speeches properly.
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