[kreuzberger]

The USA is the only one that Israel would have to listen to. The reason why no one else will do it is that it will have no effect and it will remove whatever tiny amount of leverage they might have.

Easing Israel towards the status of Pariah state, that is what the international community has been doing. Much as Smotrich and Ben Gvir might howl, they have shot their "blood libel" bolt, and no one is shying away from criticism any longer.

In truth, I don't think that Israel is beyond repair. They still have enough democratic integrity to boot these thugs and vandals out, and pack them off to The Hague for aping all that they learned in their studying of what happened to their forebears in Warsaw, Lviv, Theresienstadt and beyond - it was supposed to be a salutary lesson, rather than a handy users' guide.

Would the present US administration baulk against an Israeli Government of National Notcuntery? Probably.

But, that would not hold with the decent US Jewish vote and the shame that has been visited upon Israel.

[Boiler]

Well done, Channel 4.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... f-untruths

I can hear the screams from the Fash now.

[RedSparrows]

They seem to have a wobbly over their heroes' words being represented, so this'll irritate them, the weird fuckers.

[Abernathy]

Fucksduck. Channel 4 is currently devoting three hours of TV time to documenting, in detail, all of the lies that Donald Trump has told in office.

I've baled out as I could take no more. But somehow, though I more or less knew of most off it already(geek that I am), it's still gobsmacking to see it all documented in this way.

[Bones McCoy]

I hope they follow up with the Boris to Badenoch era.

[Boiler]

Free speech, innit.

Jimmy Kimmel taken off air over Charlie Kirk comments

Kimmel said in his Monday night monologue: "The Maga Gang desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

President Trump wrote in a social media post: "The ratings challenged Jimmy Kimmel Show is CANCELLED. Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done."

[Andy McDandy]

Reminds me of the death of Thatcher. When first reported, even the Mail acknowledged she was a divisive figure and not universally popular. Once they got that out of the way, anything short of full blown hagiography was treasonous bile.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Free speech, innit.

Jimmy Kimmel taken off air over Charlie Kirk comments

Kimmel said in his Monday night monologue: "The Maga Gang desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

President Trump wrote in a social media post: "The ratings challenged Jimmy Kimmel Show is CANCELLED. Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done."

As others have asked, how are the 'take what JD Vance said in Munich seriously" crowd taking this?

Hopefully, this is a big mistake. People don't like "cancel culture", whoever does it.

[Yug]

The Right hates cancel culture when it's their idiots who are being cancelled. When it's people saying nasty things about them (I.e telling the truth and/or using their own words), it's all perfectly fine.

Freeze peach only goes one way.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Lots of people who aren't particularly on the right hate it too. Sometimes of course it's exaggerated- see one "cancellation" of Germaine Greer being basically a protest, before which her appearance went ahead- but not always. They'll not like the President ringing up a TV station to get someone taken off who said something bad about his movement.