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By Watchman
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I would just like to clarify; I have never made millions of the back of working class people, and Gary is not my cousin
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By Abernathy
#97683
Alex Phillips, former Brexit Party MEP, is on Newsnight. She is articulate, and I think quite bright, but it's as if she is contractually obliged to talk utter shite.

She is praising Trump unconditionally.

“If anybody else was saying that they thought that they deserved to get the Nobel Peace Prize, we’d all be saying “yer, good on you ! But because it’s Trump …”.

Trouble is, literally nobody else would ever make such a desperate, self-regarding pitch to be given a prestigious prize.
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By Oboogie
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Abernathy wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:41 pm Trouble is, literally nobody else would ever make such a desperate, self-regarding pitch to be given a prestigious prize.
The Nobel committee literally said in response to a journalist at a press conference today that they've never had anyone canvass for the prize for themselves before.
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By Abernathy
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Plus of course, the deadline for nominations (from someone else, not the putative prize recipient) for this particular iteration of the Nobel prizes was apparently January 2025 - when Trump had been president for only nine days. So he was always ineligible.

Mind you, he could in theory be eligible to win the prize in 2026 - IF the middle east peace process endures until then. Emily Thornberry says that if that is achieved, he should just be given the fucking prize, as he probably would deserve it then. Emily says if that happens, she’ll be wearing a MAGA hat.
By davidjay
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I'm reminded of a few old National Treasures who either didn't get a knighthood or who were on their last legs when the sword was finally tapped on their shoulders - it was usually because they'd tried a bit too hard.
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By RedSparrows
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The real trick is the control of the conversation. The media just follows it, every time: it becomes about Trump and this specific issue alone, and slots delightfully easily into the 'world Vs us' mindset his base loves.

Nobody seems to hold more than one piece of information together to consider things simultaneously. E.g. this very welcome cease fire in a context of: previous actions and statements over Gaza not being peaceful: using the military in US cities; claiming he ended 7 wars and miraculously ending one again; the public, venal demanding of the prize; bombing Venzeualan boats (even if drug related, it's bombing); presumably (admittedly I haven't double checked) continuing to supply arms to various murderous regimes worldwide; pardoning domestic insurrectionists; dismantling a democratic constitution; being a self evidently grotesque, venal, grubby moral vacuum.

Not all of those preclude a peace prize, perhaps, but some clearly should, and the rest are fundamentally significant.
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By Bones McCoy
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davidjay wrote: Sat Oct 11, 2025 2:24 am I'm reminded of a few old National Treasures who either didn't get a knighthood or who were on their last legs when the sword was finally tapped on their shoulders - it was usually because they'd tried a bit too hard.
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